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21 September 2010 @ 10:35 pm
to hell with them, anyway. (1/1)  
Title: to hell with them, anyway.
Author: somehowunbroken 
Fandom: SGA/SG1
Characters: John/Cam
Word Count: 725
Rating: PG-13/angry. Also, cursing.
Summary: John and Cam talk about politics.
Notes: This is probably the most political thing I've ever wriitten, but I kind of felt the need to speak my mind. A lot of the conversation between John and Cam is based on a conversation I had with a friend of mine today. In case you didn't hear, or you aren't from the US/don't follow our news, the Senate voted today to not open debate on DADT, There's an article on it here. And in case you're not familiar with the college kids thing I refer to, that story can be found here.
Other notes: I seriously considered switching comments off on this one. Instead, I decided to go with this: I know there are other points of view on this topic, and I know that some of you guys might holds those points of view. This story clearly holds my own opinions, and if you disagree with them, well, I really don't want to get int oat huge political debate. This is really just a way for me to deal with a bit of frustration. Please keep that in mind, and if you comment about this politically, please know that I'll probably not respond. We're all entitled to our opinions.

...yeah, so, if you're still interested in reading after all that (I don't blame you if you're not):


“I’m going for a run.”

Cam looked up from the stove as the door slammed. That had been John’s I’m-beyond-angry voice, the one that meant his options were either ‘go for a run’ or ‘punch a hole in the wall.’ Cam mentally reviewed the past few hours in his mind and came up empty. He was pretty sure it wasn’t anything he’d done.

He checked the timer on the microwave, gave the sauce a dubious poke with his wooden spoon, and wandered down the hallway to where John had left the television on. He was about to switch it off when the story caught his eye, and he sat and watched as some nameless news announcer held a few papers and gestured to the split screen, where a shot of the Capitol building was shown.

“…have decided not to take up the fight at this time,” the man was saying. “The bill was stalled on a 56-43 vote, a mere six votes short of the sixty needed to break the Republican opposition’s block. We go now to Joe Solomnese…”

Cam watched for a few more minutes before he switched the television off. So they’d decided not to deal with the repeal of DADT. Again. He sighed and went back to the kitchen.

John came back later, much later, sweaty and dirty. He passed by the kitchen and headed straight for the shower. Cam let him go, waiting until he heard the water switch off to spoon the pasta and sauce onto plates. He set them on the table just as John walked in and sat down.

They ate without talking for a few minutes. Cam finally broke the silence. “It doesn’t change anything, John.”

“That’s the point,” John burst out, dropping his fork to his plate with a clatter. “That’s exactly my point. It doesn’t change anything. They won’t even fucking talk about it.”

“It’s not just about DADT,” Cam pointed out.

“I know that,” John said bitterly. “It’s the whole Defense Authorization Act. It’s about immigrants and gays and lesbians and everyone else that they don’t want to talk about.”

“It’s just politics.”

“Shitty politics,” John replied, but he just sounded tired now. “It’s just, two days ago we’re celebrating because of those college kids, but now we’re right back where we started. I thought we actually had a chance this time.”

Cam sighed. “Yeah,” he agreed. “So did I.”

Silence fell for a few minutes, both men eating, until John spoke again. “You know the stupidest thing about it?” Cam shook his head, even though he was pretty sure he knew where this was going. “”After all we’ve done for this country, hell, for this planet, if they found out, we’d both be kicked out. Dishonorable discharge. You kept the Ori from replacing everyone’s brain with mush, I helped keep the Wraith from a free buffet lunch, but if they knew we weren’t just roommates, that we were, well, together, none of that would matter.”

“Yeah,” Cam agreed. “It’s not fair. I know. It’s life, though.”

“Doesn't mean it doesn't suck,” John replied. “Doesn't mean I'm not angry. Doesn't mean it's okay.”

“I'd love to say things happen for a reason,” Cam said slowly, “but you know their defeat will come. Some day.”

“Some day,” John sighed. “Yeah. Just thought it might be some day soon, is all.”

Cam smiled a little crookedly. “Like I said, though, it doesn’t change anything. I don’t really care who they tell me I can be with, and I know damn well you don’t care about half the shit they tell you to care about.” John snorted, which was as much an agreement as anything else. Cam grabbed their dishes and stood, walking to the sink to wash them. “So to hell with them, John.”

“That’s my line,” John quipped, but he sounded a little better, a little less angry. He stood and picked up the dishtowel, grabbing the clean plates and drying them before he stuck them back in the cabinet. Dishes done, he turned and grabbed Cam by the wrist.

“Hey,” he said, tugging until Cam turned to face him. “You’re right.”

“I know.” Cam smiled.

John just rolled his eyes. “To hell with them,” he repeated, leaning in to brush a kiss to Cam’s lips.

“To hell with them,” Cam agreed, kissing him back.
 
 
 
theeverdreamtheeverdream on September 22nd, 2010 04:40 am (UTC)
<3
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 04:46 am (UTC)
Thanks, dear. Really, thanks.
calcitrix: peace outcalcitrix on September 22nd, 2010 04:47 am (UTC)
Yes and yes.
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 04:50 am (UTC)
Thanks.
giggles149giggles149 on September 22nd, 2010 05:31 am (UTC)
the US attitude to gays in the military puzzles me. I had great hopes for a moment there.

thank you for sharing :-)
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 05:40 am (UTC)
I do agree. I was pretty hopeful, too... sigh.
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Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 12:24 pm (UTC)
Amen, and amen.

I actually did cry.
(no subject) - berniebob on October 17th, 2010 05:05 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - somehowunbroken on October 17th, 2010 05:10 am (UTC) (Expand)
clwilson2006clwilson2006 on September 22nd, 2010 10:52 am (UTC)
Raises Pint of Guiness and toasts you....
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 12:21 pm (UTC)
Thanks, dear.
uran_chan: lorneuran_chan on September 22nd, 2010 11:10 am (UTC)
Honestly, I'll never understand this DADT thing... I was so hopeful that it'll finally be withdrawn :( I even started to write my first Evan/John fic for the occasion T_T
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 12:23 pm (UTC)
Thanks, dear. And write it anyway! I'm hopeful that it'll come up again, some day soon, hopefully after the elections in November. Maybe the balance of power will shift and we can finally get rid of that stupid hateful law.
mackenziesmommamackenziesmomma on September 22nd, 2010 04:07 pm (UTC)
This is a very good look into the issue.

For our family its a *very* personal issue as my maternal uncle was gay. He was very open about it but because of it he would never have been given a chance to serve in the military (not that any of my family other than me has ever shown interest and I can't for other reasons.) Which to me is just a shame. My uncle was one of the smartest men I knew but because of what some people consider a....whatever. I see issues with both sides of the issue however.

I'm not sure if you've heard of this case:

Major Margaret Witt vs Air Force: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2012881411_dontask13.html
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
Oh, interesting. I hadn't heard about that. I'll be keeping an eye on it for sure.
(no subject) - mackenziesmomma on September 22nd, 2010 11:36 pm (UTC) (Expand)
I'm an Honorary Canadian. I have proof!camshaft22 on September 22nd, 2010 04:31 pm (UTC)
Thanks for this. To hell with them indeed.
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 09:03 pm (UTC)
Amen, and amen.
saphirablue on September 22nd, 2010 06:51 pm (UTC)
Oh John, Cam. *hugs them*

And I'm also hugging all of the gay and lesbian soldiers out there... *hugs them*

I just don't get "Don't ask, Don't tell" and the whole "gay people can't serve for and protect their country" thing. You could also say that people who have family can't do this because there's always the risk that they try to avoid dangerous situations because they could die... You could also say that people who have no family can't do this because they have nothing (nobody) to fight for... *shakes head* It's a sad day...
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
It's a ridiculous policy... sigh.
fyreflyfyrefly101 on September 22nd, 2010 06:57 pm (UTC)
Nicely done.

I think I wrote this comment about 5 times, and deleted each one. I can't separate my thoughts on the RL situation from the fic, so, I very much 'enjoyed' your take on the matter. I think my response would've been more akin to John's desire to put a fist through the wall. Again, nicely done.
Kisomehowunbroken on September 22nd, 2010 09:08 pm (UTC)
I did the same with the story, writing and rewriting. The issue doesn't affect me personally, but it does affect some people I'm very close to. I'm pretty much with you on this one, with the wanting to punch walls and such.
Pixie Child: marvel; UncannyXMen v500 - Pixiefai_dust on September 23rd, 2010 03:32 pm (UTC)
*squeeee!* I love this. And it really is the only way to deal with that bullshit without going mad.
Kisomehowunbroken on September 23rd, 2010 04:42 pm (UTC)
Thanks dear :) I agree! I mean, there's always John's punching wall option, but, ow. Also property damage.
raincoverdleafraincoverdleaf on October 3rd, 2010 08:36 pm (UTC)
Thanks for this fic. it was nice to read. This is a issue really close to my heart. My Dad was a military man his whole life and my child hood dream was to be a Pilot, but as I got older, I realized with DADT I just couldn't live that way ( bravo to the brave people that still find a way to do it). So instead I dated a Pilot lol. Didn't work out in part to DADT. But its really nice after such bad news to read about the idea of people so deeply affected by it dealing with it so well, and at the end only carrying about there love. Its a nice filling that sooner or later love has a way of concurring the anger to hit a wall , but all so the object of that anger. You couldn't have done a better ending in my opinion :) Hope thats not saying to much Yikes!
Kisomehowunbroken on October 3rd, 2010 10:18 pm (UTC)
Wow, thanks so much! The entire issue of DADT just makes me hurt for the people it affects. I'm so sorry that it's been a problem for you. It's a really terrible law and I'm hoping that love wins out in the end, especially on this issue.
BernieBobberniebob on October 17th, 2010 05:13 am (UTC)
I really loved the story, it was just so perfectly John/Cam. <3 ;D
Everyones said pretty much what I was going to say on this. It's just utterly cowardly that they don't even want to debate the repeal of DADT. A lot smaller and bigger things have changed in politics over the time in history. This will change, DADT will be repealed, it won't be today but it will be in the future. And done right. :)
Kisomehowunbroken on October 17th, 2010 05:24 am (UTC)
Aye, here's hoping! Thanks for the comment :)
cvalh on October 28th, 2010 04:38 am (UTC)
Apparently your stories inspire me to comment (that's a good thing, I think).

DADT is such a messed up issue. I understand the different arguments (not the bigoted ones, but the ones that talk about discomfort and the risk of hate crimes, etc). I think what people forget, though, is that those were the same arguments used against non-whites in the military, against women in the military... Did/do those hate situations exist? Yah, but they can only improve if the issue is faced head on, and that can't happen as long as DADT exists.

I liked the way you wrote this because it's so painfully realistic. The anger really is the characters' anger, and the disappointment that all gays and lesbians experience in the military. I didn't feel like you were sermonizing - I felt like you were just writing the truth.
Kisomehowunbroken on October 28th, 2010 04:56 am (UTC)
Thanks for commenting again - and especially on this one. I agree with all that you said here - it's a pretty good description of the situation, yeah.